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tvguide.com error

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today i try to make my duide but i get an error
running win11
webgrab V5.0.1.0
tvguide.com.ini -- Revision 27
siteini.pack today i download a new one

[ Info ] ( 1/334 ) TVGUIDE.COM -- chan. (xmltv_id=WTCV MegaTV HDTV (WTCV) [169]) -- mode Force
[Warning ] error downloading page: Response status code does not indicate success: 403 (Forbidden).
[Error ] Unable to update channel WTCV MegaTV HDTV (WTCV) [169]
[Critical] Generic syntax exception:
[Critical] message:
[Error ] no index page data received from WTCV MegaTV HDTV (WTCV) [169]
[Error ] unable to update channel, try again later
[ Info ] Existing guide data restored!
[ Debug ]

i try to enter page tvguide.com and i get white screen.

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have you tried a new channel list?
i just made one for zip 00601(san yuan) and directv and works fine.

[  Info  ] (   1/1   ) TVGUIDE.COM -- chan. (xmltv_id=WTCV MegaTV HDTV (WTCV) [169]) -- mode Force
[  Info  ] 
[  Info  ]    Summary for update of       WTCV MegaTV HDTV (WTCV) [169]
[  Info  ]      missing shows added       0
[  Info  ]      changed shows updated     0
[  Info  ]      new shows added           12
[  Info  ]      unchanged shows inspected 0
[  Info  ]      total after update        12

[  Info  ]      elapstime / updated show  0.15 seconds

if you cant view the site in browser u may be being blocked.
are you outside north/south america?
have you tried a vpn?

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i would also update your webgrab version.
V5.0.1 is very old.

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i live on Florida USA and i was using v3.3 was working fine until yesterday stop working then i upgrade to v5.3 but doesnt want to work i press to run but doesnt do nothing.

on Win11 i have NET.Framework 6 how i can upgrade to NET.F 8 ?

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https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/8.0

all you need is the .NET Runtime 8.0.11
scroll down,its the last one on the right.

"The .NET Runtime contains just the components needed to run a console app."
webgrab is a console app.

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u can try this from powershell or command prompt.
reading the docs it looks to be the easiest way.

winget install Microsoft.DotNet.Runtime.8

source..
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/install/windows?WT.mc_id=d...

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the ISP block me, i can enter to site tvguide.com on my cell but i try 2 different laptop and if i put WiFi on cell i cant enter to site tvguide.com

im going to call ISP to unblock site tvguide.com

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i update the NET.Frame 8.0.11
update WebGrab+Plus/w MDB & REX Postprocess -- version V5.3.0.0
tvguide.com.ini -- Revision 27
WebGrab++.config chang it with the channel you sent me and still get same error, is like is block,.

[ Info ] ( 1/18 ) TVGUIDE.COM -- chan. (xmltv_id=Crave TV On Demand (CRAVE) [92]) -- mode Force
[Warning ] error downloading page: Response status code does not indicate success: 403 (Forbidden).
[Error ] Unable to update channel Crave TV On Demand (CRAVE) [92]
[Critical] Generic syntax exception:
[Critical] message:
[Error ] no index page data received from Crave TV On Demand (CRAVE) [92]
[Error ] unable to update channel, try again later
[ Info ] Existing guide data restored!
[ Debug ]

i call ISP they said that they dont block any site, verify router doesn't has NO Block, verify browser NO block
im going to try a VPN or other internet.

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well tvguide.com is blocking u for some reason,are u using a vpn or proxy?
many sites are totally blocking these.
i am from canada and know this channel and its fine for me.
issue is is on your end somewhere.

[  Info  ] (   1/1   ) TVGUIDE.COM -- chan. (xmltv_id=Crave 1 HDTV (East) (CRV1H) [265]) -- mode Force
[  Info  ] 
[  Info  ]    Summary for update of       Crave 1 HDTV (East) (CRV1H) [265]
[  Info  ]      missing shows added       0
[  Info  ]      changed shows updated     0
[  Info  ]      new shows added           2
[  Info  ]      unchanged shows inspected 0
[  Info  ]      total after update        2

[  Info  ]      elapstime / updated show  2.66 seconds

its shows a different channel number(number in [xx}) as diff derent providers use diff number but all still same programming.

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it could be a dns issue.
for example my isp dns doesnt work for tvpassport.com
some reason they dont have it(or refuse to add it)

i set everything i use to use google dns(even my vpn)
8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

i honestly dont think its a dns issue.
webgrab should return no index page recieved if it was.
update user-agent in ur wg config,common reason also for 403 forbidden.
what i use..
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/129.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Edg/129.0.0.0

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No i dont use proxy or VPN
but i use a VPN to try it and i can enter to the site tvguide.com
i change user agent you sent and the same.

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upload wg config(remove ur license info)

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Blackbear199 wrote:

upload wg config(remove ur license info)

attached conf
i replaced on my Router Primary DNS server to 8.8.4.4 same.
i,going to install VPN on the laptop i make the guide to see if works.

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to let you know i install a VPN the site open and is working the Webgrab program is making the guide,.

so tvguide block me or ISP block tvguide site.

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Hi Blackbear199
today i can create the guide but at 75% indicates the error, now the site is not block on my laptop with out vpn,.

im going to create a new provider list using zipcode but the .ini doesnt had to put the zipcode,.

can i add line to extract the providers by zipcode because doesnt have it.
replace site_id="xxxx" with your zipcode
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follow the instructions in the remarks section.

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Blackbear199 wrote:

follow the instructions in the remarks section.

ok, thanks

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Blackbear199 wrote:

follow the instructions in the remarks section.

can you send me o put the link where i can download the last .ini
because the one i have i think is incomplete in cant see to change to cange the zipcode xxxx to my zipcode PROVIDER FILE CREATION BY ZIPCODE USA ONLY (only to create the xxx-channel.xml file)
perhaps is incomplete my Revision 27

thanks

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If you run siteini.pack update you always get latest version

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mat8861 wrote:

If you run siteini.pack update you always get latest version

i do the SiteIni.Pack.Update
downloaded but inside there No tvguide.com.ini inside

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rev 27 is latest.
explain what your tyring to do.
it should work fine.

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tvguide.com.ini is in the international folder btw..

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today i do the guide, when was 270/333 start the error again and was block from tvguide
im trying to download a new .ini
because im going to create a new channel list with Rev27 but using zipcode there any place to put the zipcode loke the older version

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Blackbear199 wrote:

tvguide.com.ini is in the international folder btw..

ok, thanks

found it but there no place to put my zipcode like the other revision

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as i said above open ini in editor and readf the remarks.
follow the instructions.
ur not the first to say tvguide.com is blocking you,are u grabbing huge amounts of data?
whats the site_id"xxx" for what your trying?
why we ask for logs.
not that would help in this case.
need ur wg config also(remove ur license password)

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attached is the log and conf

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your getting blocked for grabbing to many days epg from the same site(tvguide.com)
if u use other sites mix the channels so its not grabbing tvguide.com all at once.
its that or add delays which will make it slower.

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Blackbear199 wrote:

your getting blocked for grabbing to many days epg from the same site(tvguide.com)
if u use other sites mix the channels so its not grabbing tvguide.com all at once.
its that or add delays which will make it slower.

i can change instead 4 day use 2 days ?
and how i can add delays which will make it slower. ?

i will try 2 days

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i pretty sure its the deails page causing it.
so change this line to add delays..
site {ratingsystem=MPAA|episodesystem=onscreen}
to
site {ratingsystem=MPAA|episodesystem=onscreen|retry=<retry channel-delay="0" index-delay="1" show-delay="1" time-out="30">4</retry>}
if ur still being blocked increase the show-delay by 1.

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tvguide.com must be runnin a flood protection.
better than cloudfare.lol
we can deal with flood protection using delays.

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on side note this is a very popular ini widely used.
ube the first to complain about this..
i use it myself for 7 days epg without issue.

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ok, i drop to 2 days the guide if i get block i do what you told me site {ratingsystem=MPAA|episodesystem=onscreen|retry=4}

thanks i let you know

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Blackbear199 wrote:

on side note this is a very popular ini widely used.
ube the first to complain about this..
i use it myself for 7 days epg without issue.

is the first time i have this issue.
is with this new Revision.

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new revision uses different url.
so maybe they added flood protection.
i only use it for like 5 channels for 7 days and no issues.

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i would add the delays as i said above.
it will be slower but safer.
thats if ur still seeon error 403 which i sure u will by changing nothing.

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also as u already did reduce amount of days grabbed to a minimum.

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Blackbear199 wrote:

i would add the delays as i said above.
it will be slower but safer.
thats if ur still seeon error 403 which i sure u will by changing nothing.

so is better to add the delays as you said above and reduce to 3 day instead 4 i have ?
or i can live it 4 day but slower de delay ?

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Blackbear199 wrote:

there's also a updated ini in this post.
http://webgrabplus.com/content/tvguidecomini-seeing-403-forbidden

in that Revision 28 i have to add the delay you sent or i can live it like that ?
i can use 3 days or 4 days as i always use for about 2 years ?

please let me know
thanks

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try without as see if it works.
if u get blocked add the delays.

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try without as see if it works.
if u get blocked add the delays.

yes i was blocked on #10, Revision 28, change 3 days, before i have 4 days

[ Info ] ( 10/333 ) TVGUIDE.COM -- chan. (xmltv_id=WSTE SuperSiete / Tele-Isla (TLI) (WSTE) [12]) -- mode Force
[Warning ] error downloading page: Response status code does not indicate success: 403 (Forbidden).
[Warning ] error downloading page: Response status code does not indicate success: 403 (Forbidden).

is just put the line of the delay that you sent me without modify using VPN because is block for 12 to 18 hours
is running slow e/a channel take about 1 min and 15 sec.

i let you know if finish

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Anyone getting 400 bad Request ?
tvguide limited to 3 hours duration ?

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are uisng revion 28?
400 bad request was cause byt the duration value on the urlindex line.
before it was calculated by the number of days of epg requested.
the site changed so only the default value works which is 20160.this vale is in seconds,so...

20160/60/24= 14 days.
mind you your getting blocked because of grabbing too much data(403 forbidden,another thing they added) so delays are needed as i said above.

thge block most certainely comes from the show details page.
think about it..
say your grabing 5 days epg and each day has 25 shows.

number of index pages ====> 5
number of show pages =====> 25x5= 125 pages downloaded.

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Blackbear199 wrote:

are uisng revion 28?
400 bad request was cause byt the duration value on the urlindex line.
before it was calculated by the number of days of epg requested.
the site changed so only the default value works which is 20160.this vale is in seconds,so...
20160/60/24= 14 days.
mind you your getting blocked because of grabbing too much data(403 forbidden,another thing they added) so delays are needed as i said above.
thge block most certainely comes from the show details page.
think about it..
say your grabing 5 days epg and each day has 25 shows.
number of index pages ====> 5
number of show pages =====> 25x5= 125 pages downloaded.

Oh there is revision 28 lemme try it

https://mobileapi.tvguide.com/v1.1/listings/1733509800/?providerId=91000...

By the way I think Mobile API have higher duration limit ?

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i did a typo above.
20160 is in minutes not seconds.
and yes your mobile url shows 64800 which is 45 days.

the problem is this..
tvguide always had 14 days epg.
who needs 14 days?
i'm luck if i look to see whats on a few hours ahead.
sure these pvr guys want it all,well it comes at a price.
imagine a bunch of iptv providers grabbing hundreds if not thousands of channels a day with a 14 day timespan.
what did u expect tvguide.com to do...let it happen.
we lost directv south america due to this same crap.
users dont think,they are greddy and expect it to work forever.
well they can cry over the milk they spilled,nothing we can do to fix ignorance.

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ok, i understand
before i was grabbing 4 days for 330 channels and i change for 3 days,.
can i put any delay to be slower ?
in other version takes 3 to 4 hours to make the guide on this Revision was faster 2 hours,.
i want to put a delay for 4 or 5 hour to see if works. if not then i have to use other guide provider.

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add the delay i said above.
a value of one is the lowest u can go,if u get blocked again increase the show-delay by one.
as far as finding another good source well then good luck.
tvtv.ca and tvtv.us both did the same thing(added flood protection).
if you do find a good one i'm sure it wont be long once everyone else starts using it that they will do something also.
people have to realize sites wont stand for users hammering their servers steady.
they will take action eventually.

what can you do..
mix the epg up.
grab 10 channel from tvguide,then 10 from some other site,then 10 from a different site again then 10 from tvguide,ect
hammering a site for 5-6 hrs plus steady is only going to lead to what your seeing or worse..

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add the delay i said above.
a value of one is the lowest u can go,if u get blocked again increase the show-delay by one.
as far as finding another good source well then good luck.
tvtv.ca and tvtv.us both did the same thing(added flood protection).
if you do find a good one i'm sure it wont be long once everyone else starts using it that they will do something also.
people have to realize sites wont stand for users hammering their servers steady.
they will take action eventually.
what can you do..
mix the epg up.
grab 10 channel from tvguide,then 10 from some other site,then 10 from a different site again then 10 from tvguide,ect
hammering a site for 5-6 hrs plus steady is only going to lead to what your seeing or worse..

how i can put 2 different provider ?
example 10 channel tvguide and 10 channel tvtv.us then 10 tvguide and 10 tvtv.us ?
i will put the delay and only grab 2 days instead 4 days

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webgrab grabs the channel epg in what ever order they are listed in your wg config.
just rearrange the channels there.

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webgrab grabs the channel epg in what ever order they are listed in your wg config.
just rearrange the channels there.

Hi
i try using 3 different site tu grab
ustvgo.tv is down
tvtv.us
i get this error
[ Info ] ( 10/357 ) TVTV.US -- chan. (xmltv_id=AXS TV) -- mode Force
[Warning ]
[Warning ] !! -- WARNING : tvtv.us doesn't allow epg grabbing !!
[Warning ] it is advised to disable this channel / site from your channel list
[Warning ]
[Warning ] error downloading page: Response status code does not indicate success: 403 (Forbidden).

waiting if works
xumo.com
startvmexico.com

so the only that works is tvguide.com on delay 5 very slow to grab

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its been posted many times about tvtv.us and tvtv.ca blocking via the robot check.
add ! to your mode settings in wg config,it disables the robot check.
i always use..
<mode>!,m,n</mode>
see the docs for all mode settings.
http://webgrabplus.com/documentation/configuration/webgrabconfigxml#conf...
! is a undocumented setting.

also
mode w(wget) is disabled and obsolete,if you try it you will get message in your log..
[Warning ] wget in the configuration , not supported anymore!

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